Joe 0:01
We lost Alex.
Alex 0:01
I don’t know what the hell’s going on with my internet bro.
Joe 0:04
Well, Alex, you haven’t some connectivity issues, aren’t you? What’s going on internet shortage?
Harry 0:15
What’s up guys, and welcome to the After Hours podcast, we have special guests Mari here as well as Alex and Joe. It’s great to have you on. Maybe you could tell us just a bit about kind of your journey. I know you’ve talked about it on a lot of other different kind of like podcasts and stuff like that. So maybe just like short description of kind of how you found trading how you got into it, stuff like that.
Mari’s Journey Into Trading
Mari 0:41
Well, thank you guys for having me on. And I got started almost like right after high school because my dad is an entrepreneur himself. So he always wanted me to have a job for myself. And it was kind of interesting, because all throughout high school, I kind of wanted to have a job like my friends, I was like, why can’t I work at Market Basket or Hannafords, or an ice cream shop, I don’t know, I kind of really want to start doing something and my dad would always say no. And once I started trading, he kind of like explained to me that he didn’t want to get me into like that mindset of the nine to five job kind of he wanted me to have like different perspectives on like, different routes that I could take, it could be the the traditional route, which is the one that I thought I would take, which was go to college, and you know, then eventually get a job, or it was just to start trading and work for myself. So those were like the two options that he kind of gave me. And he said, I’ll be okay with either, but this is like something you can do. And this can be something kind of a cool that you can start. So he would send me a bunch of finance articles, which I didn’t really understand that much at first. But I came across an ad for Tim Sykes. And that’s how I got started. So he kind of like spoke to a younger audience. And it kind of ricing resonated with me a little bit like the language I was like, a little bit more comfortable with the idea of trading than I was with investing or any other of that sort of stuff, because they’re kind of like speaking to an older audience. So that’s what draws me into trading in the first place. And I gave it a shot. And I started in 2018. And I got the challenge. But I didn’t really like trading at first. So I kind of just took that year off, I just got the challenge. But I was like well, I’m not really very interested just seemed a little like boyish for me in a way. So I didn’t understand it at all, either because I didn’t even open my platform. So 2019. But anyways, I didn’t want to like, let the challenge go to food go to waste. So I still kept learning. And I still kept kind of like watching the videos watching the webinars. But still, I was like, a little bit hesitant on it. Then I went to Colombia for a year. And that was kind of like an eye opener for me because it showed me that sometimes it is very difficult to make money. And also like work for somebody else based on like the examples that I saw. So then I realized like how blessed the opportunity was to be able to work for myself and to see how good it is to just work from home and not have to kind of talk to a lot of people and I can just have my schedule be free. So I realized that and then I came back and I started in 2019 full time opened up my broker’s open up to brokers. And that’s like, pretty much when I started.
How Did You See Success in Your Trading?
Alex 3:35
When you first started, did you see like instant success because like when I first started, every single stock I bought crashed, and I was like, Am I doing something wrong? Like what’s going on here? So like, when you started Did you like see success instantly? Or was it kind of like a, it took you some time to get there.
Mari 3:52
It definitely took me some time. It was like my first four or five months. But I mean, I kind of started to really understand it after like five months, but for the first five months, I thought I was up maybe like $600. And then it was a real Heartbreaker when I saw like all of my accounts, and I was still getting used to the platforms, and I was actually down like three to 4000 when I thought I was up, it was like mainly all on commissions. overtrading not knowing what I was doing getting used to the platforms and kind of using size that I shouldn’t have been using in the first place and just OTCs I started kind of trading them a lot more. So over trading them and trading five to 10 times throughout the day can really eat you up in commissions. So that’s when it was like an eye opener and then I kind of tried to like switch things back around. And yeah, it was very hard first like five to six months.
Harry 4:52
So what was it?
Joe 4:56
What was it exactly that you think propelled you for kind of being in the background just being a trader into the spotlight.
Mari 5:03
I mean, I kind of it was like around June, or July, it was like around July when I crossed PDT. And that’s kind of when I understood, like what I was actually doing. And it did take a little bit. But once I was able to like flip the switch, that was when I understood when I started to understand my personality. And I think that’s like a really important aspect of like trading and actually understanding your personality because you can study a lot. And you can watch a lot of videos and you can be very prepared. But I think I started to really understand what was going on when I started to know my personality and trading. And that’s kind of like what switched my point of view and that’s like, what pretty much started my journey but like it was once I figured out what worked for me and my personality.
Harry 5:58
Yeah, maybe you could kind of talk about like not going into like too much specifics, but like the types of setups that kind of worked for you’d like you and your personality like was it like OTC breakout or like listed Long’s or shorts,
Mari 6:11
I tried everything. But for a whole year, I tried all of the OTC different types of patterns. And then I kind of I got very comfortable with the OTC panic dip by. So then that same December, January and February that was when we had the OTC mania. So that was when I was able to exponentially grow. After I took eight months of only focusing on that type of setup.
Alex 6:37
How have you adapted to this new market, because, you know, when we had the pandemic, and 2020 2021, everyone was just printing money. And then 2022 comes along with the market crashes, and everyone’s always loving burning their money. And now we’re in 2023, we’re starting to see a little bit of a rebound. So how have you kind of adjusted to the bear market cycle that we’re in?
Mari 6:59
I definitely feel like this is like the first kind of like first three to four months where I’m very comfortable with what I’m doing. But the past year, it did take a really long time to kind of like adapt. And I would make my I would lose some money. But I still was like, I got back to that beginner stage. It was like I was an expert. And then you get back to like that beginner stage because now you have to increase pretty much, pretty much Teach Yourself, again, what you already taught yourself, because now that pattern stopped working. So I’ve adapted to short. gapper on listed socks. And that has worked for me really well. I’ve been trading it for like a year or two. And I think it’s very consistent as well. But it’s kind of like the inverse panic divine that just fit in my personality. So that’s how like I have adapted.
Transition Out of Pump and Dump Trading
Joe 7:52
So in 2019, and 2020, there was still kind of this small bit of life to the OTC market, like there was a little bit of stuff that would run or it would or it would quietly move. And then, you know, the typical pump and dump schemes that stayed there? Is that still something that’s part of your strategy in the OTC world? Or have you had to kind of fully transition out of that, because from what I’ve noticed, and maybe it’s not, what I’m seeing is different from what use what you see or what you do. But for the last two years, it really seems like since the kind of Gamestop and Wall Street bets, it took all attention out of those worlds and moved them into the listed world.
Mari 8:36
So for me, I feel like I feel like there are a lot of setups even if it’s big cap small cap or OTCs I’ll still take it with the right risk if I see a pattern there that I recognize and I like it because there’s a lot of like big cap that you can see and it’s an eight plus setup. So I’ll still take it but it’s just not like my comfort zone like I know here is like my home. And then here’s like Yeah, it’s like my second home I understand it but I’ll still take almost like any trade we had HCNWF and we also had the bankrupt stocks SIBBQ so I’ll still trade them. It’s just a matter of recognizing the pattern knowing that I’m comfortable with it, but I know that a gapper like I can understand it and it’s like my comfort zone every day to make consistent gains. And then if there’s like an outlier trade in any other type of setup then I’ll still take it
Joe 9:28
OTCs was exactly how I started as well. I went down that road and they’ve got a special place in my heart man but things I look at it and I go OTCs are dead. So I mean for Mari are OTCs dead. Do you think they are or no?
Mari 9:47
I definitely think they are there have like little spurts of like trying to come back to life. But yeah, they’re not. But I do believe right that they’ll come back
Managing Risks on His Trades
Joe 10:00
Because I mean, I remember the day EMDV and like z, what was the Z something like all of those weird? Oh good, like NXTNF. Like, I remember all these tickers, like I just wanted the I D G A F to ever come around but it never did. My favorite was like they would pump it and then pump it and pump it. And one of the traders that I’ve always looked up to was Michael Good. And I loved the research that he always did. And so I got to really digging on those OTCs and I would short those but I would have to get tricky with Interactive Brokers, because that was like the only places you could get the OTC borrows. Every morning I would come in on like a like a ticker like NXTNF is the one that I remember the most, I’d have to jump in there. And I’d have to put shares to start scaling in. So that I would, the first thing I would do is I would log in, I’d put like 500 shares to short the next one and just leave it and wait for it to fill because the way Interactive Brokers worked is as soon as those bottles as soon as somebody sold those shares and like covered them, and they were available again, it would fill whatever next order was most available after that, did you ever do any strategies like that?
Mari 11:19
So I didn’t start shorting after the OTC kind of like started to turtle off, like around April or May. So I’d never really actually got short, I definitely think there were a lot of opportunities like get short, eventually, I did once like I got back to the beginner stage. And then I had to relearn other strategies, get comfortable with it, learn my personality and listed know what I was doing. So for OTCs it was just mainly going line. And it was also very tricky, because you had to literally get the bottom in order to get a fill because you already knew that there were way bigger traders that I was that were just taking huge sides. So you just had to be quick and now like the rice all time and kind of just like, go for it.
Harry 12:07
Yeah, yeah. How would you say that you kind of go about managing risks on your trades, I guess now. Yeah. Like how what’s your kind of like risk management to like,
Mari 12:18
My Risk Management Well, I kind of like taught myself to understand entries are very well. So I kind of like when a stock when I’m like either short or long and it starts working in my favor right away. And then I can just hover a little bit and get like a cushion and then I can just either Riad or wait for like a longer time. So I do like when my entry is working in my favor, or I can just raise like 10 to 20 cents if I take a short and I can just risk high day. And it’s not really that much that much of like risk for me. I would rather keep it like less, like more risk free sorts.
Joe 12:58
So you take a short and you’re risking high of day. What? What is your what is your mindset on adding to that position? Do you find yourself as more of kind of a one shot? One kill type of trader where you’re just going in with a few 1000 shares? Making 30 to 50 cents cleaning up for the day? Or do you find that you are as soon as you are reacting to are you more of a reactive person where you’re watching the tape? Or are you more about the chart and how do you size into those trades?
Mari 13:34
I think you’re really just like depends on if it’s like an A plus or b plus or a C plus and then I’ll either add size of leg it’s truly worth it. But if I’m just trying to stay consistent throughout like the day and throughout the days, then I’m just gonna like take less sighs just like one shot one kill and just kind of like it’s almost like practice like here, practice your practice. And then when the better trade comes along, then I’ll think about adding and I’ll think about maybe risking a lot more if it is like a trade that it is actually worth it for me.
Joe 14:08
So a new trader coming into the into this game, would you tell them to focus more on the chart or more on the tape to get consistency?
Mari 14:18
I think they’re both really important. I definitely feel like I couldn’t trade without either of them. But I think I don’t know. I feel like both are like just as easily. Just as important. I guess it really also depends on the pattern that you’re trading. And like if I’m trading a gapper, I definitely need to understand the tape or if I’m trading a penny to buy definitely really need to understand where it is that is stalling in order to take it short or along and then I can just risk the highs of that. But I think both are important to practice. And just basic technical analysis I feel like should be in everybody’s hearts one So you want to like scale up, because in the beginning, you won’t understand either of them, but memorising it, and then eventually practicing and more, it should just like live in our hearts and just kind of be, like, home for us pretty much. Yeah.
What Was It Like to Cross the Million Dollar Profit Mark?
Joe 15:16
So what was it like to cross the million dollar profit mark for yourself?
Mari 15:21
I was I think it was really quick. I definitely I was not expecting that I actually set out like a few goals for myself that when I hit like 25, then I would be like over a million and it happened that same year. So I was not expecting that at all. And in a sense, that kind of made it like, less exciting because I was working a lot in order, like, we were just going over time during that time. So I didn’t even really have a lot of time to like, sit and actually think about what just happened because it was like, three, four months. It was a lot and we still had to like keep working. So it was like next day, you kind of just have to reset and just start again, you didn’t really have time because you were just wasting time kind of like celebrating instead, you just had to work the next day. That’s how it felt for me.
Joe 16:15
So did you. Were you just doing it on your own? Or were you doing it with like a group of people? Did you have a group of people that you talk to, or were you just kind of solo like nobody talked to me, I’m in my zone.
Mari 16:27
I definitely had people to talk to and I’m gonna give a shout out to Jack Kellogg, of course, because he was also a great help throughout my trading journey. And I am super grateful. Because you know, if you know Jack Kellogg, obviously you know how hard worker he is. And it just kind of like pushes you knowing who your friends are, and who the people that you love are like that says a lot about you as well. So it only pushes you a lot harder if you know that the people you’re around are also ones that are doing amazing things. Kind of like pushes you a lot more if you’re closer to Yeah, well. They’re doing amazing things. Yeah.
Joe 17:06
you having some connectivity issues, aren’t you?
Alex 17:11
Internet shortage right now, I guess my Wi Fi is I got no idea what’s going on here. And honestly, this kind of brings me to a I’m stressed out right now this camera’s not working. But in trading, trading can be very, what do you do to combat stress and trading? What do you do to kind of, because as magical as trading is, you know, making millions and millions of dollars, you know, really is stressful. And I think every trader probably has like something that helps release. So what is that for you?
Mari 17:48
I definitely feel like I have to detach from the market once I’m like away from the market. So I feel like that’s really helped me because I’m very close to my family. And I also kind of like love being outside. So I think one of the things that kind of helps me combat stress is knowing that when the market closes, it’s almost like a new day for me. And I get to do something and kind of like go on a walk or just hang out with my family or eat some food. I always, like always thinking or not like always thinking about how stressful the day was, but kind of being able to disconnect for a little bit. And know that tomorrow’s a new day and the next opportunity is right around the corner. And if you made a mistake, you go and you analyze and you kind of just like relax, because what’s done is done. So you kind of just gotta focus on your next trade. That’s how I see things
Alex 18:50
for myself, because we know now it’s just like, as soon as the market closes, you can do your review you do whatever you got to do and then you’re like you know what, I’m taking the market hat off and I’m putting on the enjoy my life hat.
Joe 19:04
Do you think having a partner like that that understands the stresses of trading and is supportive in that helped you get to that next level? A lot of traders there’s two sides of the coin right? We’ve probably all heard the success and downfall of these traders that number one they either have a partner or spouse that does not like what they’re doing this does not believe that they have are going to find any success in this. They’re risking their families money, they’re risking their their livelihood, all kinds of things like that. And then there’s the other side of the coin, which is most of the traders that you hear that had success had a supportive partner or spouse in that situation. So do you think that that helps you reach that next level?
Mari 19:47
Definitely did it helps a lot emotionally because sometimes we lose perspective on what is like normal, so you might go up to like so I could go up to like some I didn’t say, Oh, I lost but they would be like, Oh, but you made so much. And I’m like, No, that’s not the point. My execution was terrible. I traded on discipline, I was super stressed. Today, it was such a long day. And you kind of just like, why want to like talk about it, but they will see the bigger picture, but we’re looking at the daily. So I think that’s really important to be able to talk to someone about like, what goes on in the daily and knowing that they have the right perspective. They’ll understand you if they’ve been there also. So it’s really good.
Joe 20:31
You want them to get hyped with you.
Mari 20:35
Exactly.
Joe 20:37
Get like hyped with me. Yeah, somebody else who doesn’t understand that like, Yeah, but okay. Yeah, like a lot of money. You’re like, no, that’s not the point. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
Harry 20:57
When you when you became profitable, I guess, like, did you find that like any relationships changed between, like, family or friends? Like, Was it awkward or weird to talk about, like, how much like how much you were making? Because for me, it was it was honestly, like, really difficult. Because every time I would go out, everyone would be like, Oh, Drinks are on area drinks are on here, you know, or people would ask me about trading and like, I was from a small town. And, you know, sometimes I did, you know, I was like, fuck it. Like, we’re all getting drunk tonight. We’re all having a good time. We’re all partying. But it’s like, sometimes when you’re done trading, and you just want to have a drink, you know? Or you just want to do whatever hanging out with your friends. Like, you don’t really want to talk about it that much. So like, did it impact like your friends or like your family or any stuff like that?
Getting Into the Spotlight as a Female Trader
Joe 21:42
Keep in mind that they may watch us.
Mari 21:45
Definitely. stalkers? Well, I don’t think so that much. Because they also saw, like the struggles and they saw like the gains. So I also don’t really talk about it that much. I try to detach from trading as much as I can. So whenever I’m with my friends, they barely know. And if they do, they can just look me up. And they’ll know. But it’s not something that I was that I was really kind of talking about. And also kind of like trading terminology, they won’t really understand what I’m really talking about. So I kind of try to separate the lives and then if I’m talking with like traders, like I think it’s was like trading friends. I think it’s good, because then they’ll ask me a few questions, or they’ll want to like know if they’re like going through a hard time. And they can just ask me, so I think it just like makes us closer.
Joe 22:39
Yeah. So how do you feel about getting into the spotlight?
Mari 22:44
I think it was good, because when I first started, I didn’t really have a woman speaker to look up to. So I did base, everything based on my age, and the young people that were in the industry. So I’m like, Well, we had the same age, we didn’t go to college. So that’s how I kind of found the similarities. And then I found out like, yeah, I can actually do it because they’re literally the same age. But it definitely felt really inspiring because I was able to like be the person that I missed when I went to that first conference. And now I’ve seen a lot of more women traders but I remember going up and just it was the first time that I was getting my nametag and it was just like a bunch of guys and I just like went back to my hotel room like okay, I don’t know what to say because it’s just like it was just like a lot so definitely having a little more like one in the industry would definitely help to like open up and kind of like understand everything like deeper because we we have differences from guys as well. Knowing different kind of like trading styles between women and men I guess it’s it can be a little more conservative at times. So I think it was good that I was able to like speak and also maybe inspire a lot of more women traders that are on the edge of like knowing that they can do it or not.
Harry 24:05
Who do you think is a is a better trader? Like what gender do you think is a better trader is a better way to ask it.
Joe 24:12
Women herring there’s there’s there’s a spectrum of gender seatstays parents and ask that question. Oh yes,
Harry 24:19
we can we can. We can include the other one I’m gender neutral.
Joe 24:27
Okay. What do you think is better men or women who manages money better?
Mari 24:35
It doesn’t. Okay, I’m gonna be honest, completely.
Joe 24:39
I think I’ll make it comfortable. I think women are better money managers.
Mari 24:45
I think that both can do the same based on practice in charting and level two if you can do all those three, then you’re a good trader no matter the gender, emotionally. I feel like is where like the difference maker can come mean, because it’s just like generalizing guys are a little more like risk takers, whereas women can be more conservative. We can think about it twice, and then eventually, then we’ll take the trade, I guess could be like one of the differences like emotionally and might affect is a lot more than a guy would. But I feel like both can be really good traders no matter who they are, if they know price action, they know process they know risk. They know level two, then that can just make you a good trader, whether it’s a guy or a girl.
Alex 25:32
I think women are 100% better at trading than men.
Joe 25:36
I think women are better at running companies, women are better at pretty much everything. Well, just not Bud Light.
Alex 25:48
Trading is very emotional. And yes, women are very emotional. Have this ego superiority. I have to be right complex. If I’m not right, there’s a it can’t be the stock market’s wrong. And I’m right. And what that leads to that leads to so trades just based on hubris of trying to feel right. So really, really the job of taking that ego out of the equation and just trading the
Mari 26:21
Yeah, I think that doesn’t make sense a lot, though, because ego does play a big role into how you’re trading. So I think I think that maybe right,
Joe 26:32
so what are some of the most memorable trades that you had that boosted that ego?
Mari 26:38
In a good way?
Best and Worst Trading Days
Joe 26:40
Yeah, in a good way. And then that was going to be my segue to the unsuccessful side of that, what were the ones that also humbled you back down to reality? So let’s start with the first ones that you were like, look at me, mother. I got it.
Mari 26:59
I would say that was like around February, February, when the OTC mania was going on. And it wasn’t just on one specific trade. It was a whole day where we had, it was like maybe six or seven panics, perfect panics that were going on. It was like OSNC, TSNPE, NCC. It was all of them were panicking. And I think that was like my top one best day that I ever had. But it just came from, like all of the practice that I took before, but that was definitely my best day.
Joe 27:30
And that was February of what year this year?
Mari 27:34
No, that was 2021.
Joe 27:36
Okay, so February 21. Was the day or whatever day that all those stickers ran, that was the day that you were like, I got this. Yeah. What day crushed you.
Mari 27:53
I mean, you, I definitely feel like I remember the losses so much more than I do. The gains because you can have a lot of like, gains, but I feel like the losses are so much more meaningful. I would say it would be definitely my Tesla trade. It was an options trade. And that was definitely by far the most heartbreaking loss that I ever had. It was also my biggest loss that I ever had. So I came from, this was in 2022. And I came from trading Tesla all December and January for like two whole months, because Tesla, maybe not now. But during those during those months, it would just pick a trend and it would trend all day and it was just perfect, it would either fade or would either just follow the trend very well. So I was trading it every single day for 234 K every single day for a whole two months. And I was very confident I thought you know, like I can pretty much read Tesla like the back of my hand. And that was when during February that was during the time that auction trading kind of like started to come up a little bit between like my friends and like other people like around me and I was like you know what, if I can trade Tesla everyday consistently like normally I can long and short then that means I must be able to options trade. And keep in mind I didn’t even watch an options video. Like I was very new to it. I remember I asked a little bit but I was still very new to it. And I wasn’t used to the volatility, volatility and I wasn’t used to the huge percentage differences that it had between just trading and normally so I decided to options trade and this wasn’t even on an A plus day this was on like, stay consistent. Make some gains and then just leave.
Joe 29:39
You just woke up. I choose violence today. Pretty much
Mari 29:43
yeah. Yep. And then I lost all of my two month games. Ah that day. Oh my gosh. Oh, man. It was horrible. Like me. Yeah. It was heartbreak. Yeah, I was like, Okay.
Joe 30:05
Like, clearly I know nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Elon will do that. He really has a way.
Mari 30:15
Yeah, it was. It was heartbreaking. And I think I took like a few days off as well. Because it was like a mix of almost everything. It was a mix of feeling too confident that I knew tests like the back of my hand. And it was also not knowing enough and just being a total beginner and options trading and not getting used to the volatility and the percentages. And badges all came to a mess. Also, revenge trading was also part of like the process, it was almost like a whole day kind of thing. Where I was I was, I was like, I know, Tesla. Right? This is it. And it wasn’t so that I flipped bias, which was also the worst thing I could do. And that was when it actually made me know that I wanted to so that was my most undisciplined was sad, last sad day.
Joe 31:10
Are you a full time trader now? Or do you do other things outside of trading for just to get away from the market to earn additional income, things like that?
Mari 31:20
I’m a full time day trader, but I’m almost done. Every single day. I like 11 or 12. I don’t overstay because I know, I probably will find anything in the afternoon. Yeah.
Joe 31:35
Oh, sorry. No, go ahead. No, go ahead.
Relearning a New Strategy
Harry 31:37
You kind of mentioned before how you had a consistent strategy. And then you kind of had to relearn a new strategy. Maybe you could kind of talk about how like, what that mindset was like, but also the mindset that you use to really kind of push you forward and kind of like, get back on your feet again, you know, because I think a lot of people are going through that right now, where they had been doing really well through COVID. And then this year, or maybe a little bit to the end of last year. And some you know, some people that even Reno Mari are struggling, like at the start of this year. I feel like everyone’s kind of gone through it after COVID. So maybe you could kind of talk about just like relearning a new strategy, what the mindset was, like how you kind of went about it, because it is really difficult when you have made some money to have kind of have to go back to the drawing board and say, Okay, I need to reevaluate what’s working, I need to reevaluate, you know, my own headspace, I need to kind of, you know, look under the hood, and see what’s working and what’s not. So maybe you can kind of talk about that a little bit.
Mari 32:40
One of the best things that I did that, I think I was too late on, because last year, like, it was a little difficult to kind of like adapt. But this year, what I did was size down all of my accounts, not all of my accounts, I size down my main account to 30k. And that was like the best decision I’ve ever made that leg eliminated all of like the emotional stress. And it also eliminated huge draw downs for like, no reason at all. Because having like a bigger account can get you out of like very uncomfortable situations easily. But if you have a small account, you have to focus very good on execution. Or else, it’s like your account that’s going to hurt. So that’s kind of like one thing that I did that helped me in order to like adapt to this year. And also I feel like I’ve gotten enough practice throughout like the year to understand how to like get short, the right risk, and to no good stock selection.
Alex 33:40
That’s awesome. That’s awesome. To wrap it up, my final question would be do you have any advice for a new trader or a struggling trader, or someone that wants to get into trading in general?
Mari 33:55
Well, I have, I feel like there’s a lot of advice to be given to new traders. But it really helps me to study the first year and just not even open a broker or brokerage account at all, or maybe have one that like you’re looking at, because the more practice and the more comfortable you are, you’ll still have a lot of mistakes, but at least you’ll be comfortable with price action, which is like one of the most important things. So one of the good things that I did was at least study before I got into it and just be really cautious and meticulous on what it is that you’re trading. And I would say other advice would be before you’re thinking on like exponentially growing and kind of scaling up. I would think it’s really important that you know for sure what your setup is and what your personality is and trading because everybody’s different. You you can’t like imitate someone or copy anybody’s trades you have to understand who you are. And that’s why I was able to exponentially grow only when I knew myself. So I think that’s like another advice I would give. And I guess my third advice would be to, I know that you’ll be studying and working a lot in the beginning, but don’t forget to like enjoy the little moments that you have. Because you don’t want like trying to change you in a negative way. You just kind of want to imitate what you have outside of the markets also in the market. So not like forgetting to enjoy those little moments because you never know when you’ll have them back. So steady work, but also be able to have a balanced life and healthy life.
Joe 35:38
So what are your next goals, aspirations or plans for the future? Whether that’s in trading or outside of trading? What’s next for Mari?
Mari 35:49
Well, I’ll keep trading until whenever till you and, I mean, I feel like I’m still at an early age where I have to figure out a lot of things I have to try a lot of new things and kind of have to understand myself so pretty much just like going with the flow but understanding that I need to try new things now that I’m younger and also teach her puppy how to use socks. It’s like that’s like my goal number one right now.
Traveling the World
Joe 36:37
Say that again. I’m sorry it cut out.
Mari 36:39
I gotta I gotta teach her how to use socks.
Joe 36:43
Use socks
Mari 36:48
you know, during the summer here, it the pavement gets really hot. Their little paws like starts to hurt. So I needed teacher in the summers coming up. And I don’t know, she just gotta learn quick.
Joe 36:59
I had a I had a Rottweiler and we tried to put her in, like rubber, like these protective pads or whatever. And we put them on her and she was like, you know, like this. Like didn’t she forgot how to walk? And exactly why? Yeah. What kind of
Mari 37:22
dog leg like always kick back is a toy golden doodle. She’s like, Yeah, she’s cute.
Joe 37:30
Awesome. That’s awesome. Well, that that next is traveling, I guess.
Mari 37:35
Traveling? Yeah, I mean, there’s a lot of places to see in the world. Where do you
Joe 37:42
want to go outside of Colombia? What’s your top one? vacation spot? One? Canada? No, no, no. I want to go to Canada. Canadians don’t even want to be there. You don’t even want to be there. Harry. We know this. One where do you want to go? Well,
Mari 38:04
I’d like to do the Antarctica cruise. The what? The Antarctica cruise. Oh, yeah. That’s like maybe top one but I do want to Iceland Switzerland.
Joe 38:18
The roar lights are like my like, I have to see it before it like like, I have to see the roar. I have to see the northern lights. I have to see all of that before I die. And if I die before that, I’m just going to haunt everyone that sees it. That’s where my soul is going to exist is up there. Iceland. So you liked the colder weather then? Iceland a little
Mari 38:44
bit. I like big mountains. Switzerland. I like big mountains. Hiking on rivers.
Joe 38:53
Just speaking up my alley. Yeah, like we just yeah, we just left Texas and moved to Colorado. So staring right at the Rockies. Like Yeah, buddy. The wife and I are talking about we’re like hiking everything that we can possibly do outside.
Mari 39:12
skiing is good too.
Joe 39:15
I suck at that. Terrible. That’s that’s what I do too. If ever I’m like, I need to feel some pain in my life. I just go skiing or I short something
Joe 39:31
that’s awesome. Mari. So traveling is in the future. Big puppy. Socks are in the future. That’s awesome. Guys. Any last questions?
Harry 39:44
Nope. That That does it for me. Thanks.
Mari 39:50
Thank you guys.
Joe 39:51
Thank you so much.